Webb telescope reveals oldest galaxy; not what astronomers expected, but perhaps what theists did.

Washington Post article by Joel Achenbach, August 26, 2022 states, “The very distant universe looks a little different than expected. . . . Observing these ‘early’ galaxies is one of the main missions of the telescope – to see deeper into space and further back in time, than any previous telescope. . . . A general assumption had been that early galaxies – which formed not long after the first stars ignited – would be relatively small and misshapen. Instead, some of them are big, bright and nicely structured. . . . The ones that look the reddest – that have the highest redshift – are presumed to be the farthest away.”

“The models just don’t predict this,” Garth Illingworth, an astronomer at the University of California at Santa Cruz, said of the massive early galaxies. “How do you do this in the universe at such an early time? How do you form so many stars so quickly?”

What has surprised astronomer Dan Coe of the Space Telescope Science Institute are the number of nicely shaped, disk like galaxies. “We thought the early universe was this chaotic place where there’s all these clumps of star formation, and things are all a-jumble.”

Maybe, if scripture is correct and the earliest formations are spiritual, it might make a lot of sense. If the first seven billion light years of our universe is spirit and the last 6.8 billion years is physical, these (13.5 billion years ago) new galaxies may be spiritual matter and may appear exactly as theists might expect. We cannot see spirit or dark matter for that matter but we know it is there because of gravitational lensing that appears very redshifted.

What do we know about spiritual matter?

“For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth” (Moses 3:5).

In Genesis we learn that there are generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. A time of creation of plants, herbs, etc. before they grew or before God had made them physical and rain was needed (Genesis 2:3-4). Scripture indicates it to be seven periods of time, revolutions, or orbits for spiritual organization called the first estate. The second estate is the physical seven periods of time (Abraham 3:25-26).

The spiritual matter is from the beginning, mature and organized. Scripture tells us the brother of Jared saw the spiritual Jesus had a body like that of a grown man even before he was born on this earth (Ether 3:6-16). Jesus told the brother of Jared, “Behold, this body, which ye now behold, is the body of my spirit; and man have I created after the body of my spirit; and even as I appear unto thee to be in the spirit will I appear unto my people in the flesh.” This would account for why our view of the earliest formations of spiritual dark matter galaxies are already big, bright and nicely structured.

In the online magazine, INVERSE, July 20, 2022, Science Section we read, “Webb Telescope Data Reveals Oldest Galaxy Every Seen—And it’s not what Astronomers Expected.

“. . . it’s a cosmic surprise that challenges key ideas about what the early universe was like. Galaxy, GLASS-z13 is 13.5 billion light years away, 300 million years after the Big Bang, when the universe was still very young. It smashes some assumptions about when galaxies started to form, how quickly they grew, and how many we can expect to find in the most distant reaches of the universe and are surprisingly bright, ‘remarkably luminous.’ The early GLASS-z11, similar to our galaxy, is about 2,300 light years wide. Milky Way today is about 100,000 light years wide. This was expected.”

Scripture also explains this in its description of spiritual matter. “There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes” (Doctrine and Covenants 131:7). Not only does this tell us why we cannot see spiritual dark matter it also tells us it is more fine or denser and may account for why an early galaxy similar to our Milky Way may not appear as wide as our physical much less dense but same mass galaxy of today.


Time is relative, orbits are not.

If we could travel the speed of light, we wouldn’t age. “One percent of the speed of light would still be awfully fast, seven million miles per hour. It would take a little over a second to get from Los Angeles to New York. This is more than 10,000 times faster than a commercial jet,” according to Curious Kids U.S. As a passenger we would only age a second but the distance (orbit) from Los Angeles to New York remains the same no matter our speed.

SCIENCE: The faster we move through three dimensions of space, the slower we move through the fourth dimension of time. And vice versa, the slower we move through the three dimensions of space, the faster we move through the fourth dimension of time.

That makes time dependent on relative motion or position and thus time becomes an illusion, something we cannot see clearly. Distance or orbit (two points in space) is absolute and the speed of light (186,282 miles per second) is an absolute constant. I would suggest that together they form an absolute orbital sphere of space and time for our universe. However, everyone and everything in this universal sphere moves in its own orbit of energy and mass position– some of which we can see.

Perhaps in our spiritual existence we move fast as or even faster than the speed of light; so fast, time is immediate and we do not age. In the physical world we can only move slower than the speed of light. The slower we move in space the faster we age. We do not see it or even try to measure it because it is so small in the grand scheme of things. But we, as energy and mass, are always moving converse to space-time to equal the absolute sphere. You know, what Einstein said, the faster we move through the three dimensions of space the slower we move through the fourth dimension of time and visa versa.

SCRIPTURE: Abraham seemed to know this. He also knew that the closer to the center (black hole) of a galaxy the more gravity and the faster the energy/mass motion in space converse to slower time. Pearl of Great Price, Abraham 3:4 “And the Lord said unto me [Abraham], … that Kolob [black hole?] was after the manner [motion/position?] of the Lord, according to its times [space-time?] and season in the revolutions [distance/orbits?] thereof; that one revolution was a day unto the Lord, after his manner of reckoning [space-time?] , it being one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest [a solar system further out?]. This is the reckoning of the Lord’s time, according to the reckoning of Kolob [gravity pull?].”

The stars are in somewhat like a bike race within their positions. Stars closer to the center travel faster but age slower and stars in positions further out conversely travel slower but age faster. We know all stars basically travel in their own position and space-time but cover the same distance, orbit. This is probably because when their motion increases their time slows or conversely their motion slows their time increases but remaining the same total.

If we could see not only position but also time, the bikers would start and finish together. The only difference is the further the biker is from the gravity center the more the biker ages. Somewhat like a person that lives on the bottom floor of a high-rise closer to the gravity pull of the earth ages slower than a person on the top floor but they remain in the same building. It is just hard to measure those nanoseconds.

Time is an illusion, physical aging and entropy sadly seem to not be, at least in the physical universe motion through space-time.

Abraham many centuries before Einstein knew time is relative but orbits are not. In the physical universe the mass motion through space slows as the time through space speeds up which causes normal matter’s aging and entropy.